Comments on: Spock vs Ziki http://fidjissimo.com/2007/07/spock-i-dont-get-it-either/ Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:41:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Fidji SIMO http://fidjissimo.com/2007/07/spock-i-dont-get-it-either/#comment-172 Fidji SIMO Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:26:33 +0000 http://www.fidjissimo.com/2007/07/24/spock-i-dont-get-it-either/#comment-172 Your article perfectly describe the link between the three "models". Concerning Facebook however, I am not sure that it would be their best move, as there is still a doubt on their capacity of becoming mainstream and the problems it would cause to users. We've had a great discussion about that earlier on this blog, <a href="http://www.fidjissimo.com/2007/07/06/the-future-of-facebook/#comments" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Your article perfectly describe the link between the three “models”. Concerning Facebook however, I am not sure that it would be their best move, as there is still a doubt on their capacity of becoming mainstream and the problems it would cause to users. We’ve had a great discussion about that earlier on this blog, here.

]]> By: Rupert Schiessl http://fidjissimo.com/2007/07/spock-i-dont-get-it-either/#comment-171 Rupert Schiessl Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:00:27 +0000 http://www.fidjissimo.com/2007/07/24/spock-i-dont-get-it-either/#comment-171 Facebook doesn't need to launch its people search engine on the current Facebook website. They can come up with a new page and benefit from their present database. I think that social networks and people search are two consecutive evolutions but they are closely linked and can be combined on only one space (have a look on <a href="http://ziki.com/blogs/english/2007/07/25/social-networking-content-aggregation-and-people-search-who-will-be-the-missing-link/" rel="nofollow"> my last post</a> on this subject). Facebook doesn’t need to launch its people search engine on the current Facebook website. They can come up with a new page and benefit from their present database.
I think that social networks and people search are two consecutive evolutions but they are closely linked and can be combined on only one space (have a look on my last post on this subject).

]]> By: Fidji SIMO http://fidjissimo.com/2007/07/spock-i-dont-get-it-either/#comment-170 Fidji SIMO Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:55:20 +0000 http://www.fidjissimo.com/2007/07/24/spock-i-dont-get-it-either/#comment-170 You are so right about the importance of an underlying social network first. But concerning Facebook, they are too much seen as a social network to become a great people search engine, and the main problem is that the level of customization of your profile depending on your different types of friends is limited, which means that their logic is not to help users manage information but just push them to display as much info as possible on their profile, as it is a lot better for advertisers. The interesting approach that Ziki has is the management of online identity, something Facebook is really bad at (even if it is amazing in other aspects of course!) So good luck Ziki! You are so right about the importance of an underlying social network first.

But concerning Facebook, they are too much seen as a social network to become a great people search engine, and the main problem is that the level of customization of your profile depending on your different types of friends is limited, which means that their logic is not to help users manage information but just push them to display as much info as possible on their profile, as it is a lot better for advertisers. The interesting approach that Ziki has is the management of online identity, something Facebook is really bad at (even if it is amazing in other aspects of course!)

So good luck Ziki!

]]> By: Rupert Schiessl http://fidjissimo.com/2007/07/spock-i-dont-get-it-either/#comment-169 Rupert Schiessl Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:43:11 +0000 http://www.fidjissimo.com/2007/07/24/spock-i-dont-get-it-either/#comment-169 A lot of financing is always a threat... if it used well. Spock's creating a great buzz since its beta launch some weeks ago. Their concept is a little bit different from Ziki's one as it does not integrate own sources of social networking which they can construct on. Ziki's move from a social network and content aggregator to a people search engine function offers an internal base (even if it is still small) which make Ziki's result more pertinent. This is also the reason, why we might await other - more important - moves on this market. Facebook or LinkedIn launching their own people search engines might hardly impact the current positionings. A lot of financing is always a threat… if it used well.
Spock’s creating a great buzz since its beta launch some weeks ago.
Their concept is a little bit different from Ziki’s one as it does not integrate own sources of social networking which they can construct on. Ziki’s move from a social network and content aggregator to a people search engine function offers an internal base (even if it is still small) which make Ziki’s result more pertinent.
This is also the reason, why we might await other - more important - moves on this market. Facebook or LinkedIn launching their own people search engines might hardly impact the current positionings.

]]> By: Fidji SIMO http://fidjissimo.com/2007/07/spock-i-dont-get-it-either/#comment-168 Fidji SIMO Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:19:35 +0000 http://www.fidjissimo.com/2007/07/24/spock-i-dont-get-it-either/#comment-168 You are right Rupert, I think that the V2 is a real improvement, it just needs to go a little quicker. Concerning the referencing on search engines, it is definitely a great feature, especially since my blog does not top Google results, and I would prefer somebody to find my blog rather than some stupid comments I made years ago. So I also have to add that Ziki is definitely a great source of traffic, even if it is before all a destination in itself. As you can see I mentioned the info about the business cards at the end of the article, I hope that people will use this offer as the designs are really good. And what is your opinion about Spock Rupert? Is it a threat to Ziki, especially since they have a lot of financing? You are right Rupert, I think that the V2 is a real improvement, it just needs to go a little quicker. Concerning the referencing on search engines, it is definitely a great feature, especially since my blog does not top Google results, and I would prefer somebody to find my blog rather than some stupid comments I made years ago. So I also have to add that Ziki is definitely a great source of traffic, even if it is before all a destination in itself.

As you can see I mentioned the info about the business cards at the end of the article, I hope that people will use this offer as the designs are really good.

And what is your opinion about Spock Rupert? Is it a threat to Ziki, especially since they have a lot of financing?

]]> By: Rupert Schiessl http://fidjissimo.com/2007/07/spock-i-dont-get-it-either/#comment-167 Rupert Schiessl Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:29:58 +0000 http://www.fidjissimo.com/2007/07/24/spock-i-dont-get-it-either/#comment-167 Thanks for this post! I also got to know Ziki through its design and its user friendly interface initially. Since the launch of the V2, all this features have even been refined and Ziki's going a straight way to become a main stream people search engine. One of Ziki's most attractive features is probably its free search engine registration within Google, Yahoo!, MSN and its content networks. Did you try it ? And a great news for french users: Ziki announced a partnership with ooprint yesterday. You can get 100 personalized Ziki visiting cards for free. Get more info on Ziki's french blog... Thanks for this post!

I also got to know Ziki through its design and its user friendly interface initially.
Since the launch of the V2, all this features have even been refined and Ziki’s going a straight way to become a main stream people search engine.
One of Ziki’s most attractive features is probably its free search engine registration within Google, Yahoo!, MSN and its content networks. Did you try it ?

And a great news for french users: Ziki announced a partnership with ooprint yesterday. You can get 100 personalized Ziki visiting cards for free. Get more info on Ziki’s french blog…

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